Lisa Hymas, Grist:How would you describe the link between population growth and climate change?
Suzanne Ehlers, PAI:I think the most important way that we've pursued in recent years has been on the adaptation side of climate change. We're seeing huge environmental devastation, and it typically hits hardest those who are most vulnerable and least able to adapt to change, which are the poor and most often women and their families. I go back to the 215 million with unmet need. If you give people access to the services they have said they already desire, you make their families healthier, you therefore make their families wealthier, you make them better able to adapt to the impacts of climate change, they're more resilient, they're less vulnerable.